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welcome to the skinwalker debrief

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I'm your host TJ Allard and I'm one of

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the executive producers of the new TV

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series on history called the secret of

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skinwalker ranch

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I'm joined each week by Jason McCullen

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and Marine Ellsbury and together we'll

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dissect each episode to give you more

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insight and background into the show so

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this week's episode we're gonna jump

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right into it this week's episode is the

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finale for season one called

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revelations so guys thoughts what are

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your initial thoughts we finally made it

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to the end right I mean we get through

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now eight episodes reached the season

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finale and I don't know I I was really

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excited leading into this episode and

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you know now that it's here it's come

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and gone I'm kind of sad but you know

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overall I thought the the episode

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delivered on on what it promised and it

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it sort of wrapped up the seasoned

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nicely sure yeah I think I think it's

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one of those things where there's a lot

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of things that they talked about that I

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still have questions and and one of them

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in I'll dress because this was right

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away and I know we have first let me say

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that Thomas did address this last week

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and says you know he watched the whole

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video and and it's not a fly but that

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UFO to me and he said because we could

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see it go beyond the tree line what us

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the viewers are shown in the final

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episode is not that object going behind

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the trees so we only see those two

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frames so for me as doing my due

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diligence even know somebody who I have

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grown to trust what they're saying has

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not seen that in my head I still think

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that still could be a fly so I think

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that you know we know that we're going

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to as Thomas talked a little bit about

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last week and we've seen on soap Branden

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talked about on social media we're going

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to see this port portal from them that

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not not a gnome but a poor like a vortex

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portal but we're not going to see that

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the web destination destination where

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you know people are going to be able to

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hopefully see and analyze on their own

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the raw data from these types of things

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I think that's great because like I said

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as as a viewer taking out having talked

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to anyone on the ranch that's

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immediately what I thought as well I'm

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not seeing it go behind the tree line I

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could still see it being close to the

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camera until I see that full footage I

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don't know if it's something about I

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mean I'm sure yeah I'm sure we'll get

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out there but yeah it definitely it

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didn't do any dude to show any favors by

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not showing the full clips of stuff I

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think it would have helped people feel

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that better about it

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sorry about that motorcycle oh you hear

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it as we pointed out I mean a lot of

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time passed since you know the things

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happened to now and we know that Eric

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specifically and the rest of the team

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have had much more time to go through

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and analyze some of this stuff so some

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of that that due diligence and the work

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that's been done and and the information

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they're working off of now when we have

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them as guests on this show it's stuff

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that we haven't seen so to your point

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yes the TV show you know from what we

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have seen as viewers I'm with you 100% I

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mean I'm still in the bug or bird camp

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from from what it appears on TV I think

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I think Eric will uh we'll start putting

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more stuff out there it's just a matter

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of time I think there's a lot of will

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there's a well there's a lot of you know

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hoops to go through here and things to

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jump over and hurdles and all that kind

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of stuff and in speed up Eric so just so

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people know we had initially had plans

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to have a guest tonight then it was

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supposed to be Brandon and it turns out

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everyone is at the ranch right now

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working so that's kind of you know there

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there's some stuff happening sorry

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excuse to miss this show right sorry

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working on the ranch come on hey there

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yes there's a lot going on right now and

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I know Brandon's already announced it

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and talks about season 2 happening and

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so pre-production is everything like

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that is getting star

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now so hopefully you know these guys

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will get going next couple of weeks and

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then getting ready to bring you season 2

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in the fall so I want to put that out

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there at the top here and the front some

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people are not like what are you guys

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talking about who's supposed to be there

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you know so there it is like there's

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people here and I try to get others but

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everyone's like I can't man there's too

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much stuff going on right now so yep

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settle for just just us just us there's

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a enough we can talk about that happened

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in this episode in terms of the history

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that we know about the ranch because I

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think forgive me if I'm wrong TJ but one

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of the the big revelations that was what

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this episode was supposed to cover is

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the government interest in the ranch and

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and you know we've known for a long time

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that there was this twenty two million

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dollar program and we've talked about a

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tip that we've talked about on the

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program before that Bigelow was involved

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with with that actually had involvement

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with the ramps so it's it was very

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curious to see the Utah Attorney General

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on Jason what what were your thoughts

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with that well you know when when that

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whole government interest part was

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brought up you know it was and we'd

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heard that before I think from Thomas

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maybe but yeah the fact that Travis says

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he was contacted by people from from the

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intelligence agencies you know that but

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it's funny oh like he says we were

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contacted he never says he was contacted

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he says we were contact yeah just saying

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and you know what I thought that whole

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exchange and the topic as a whole was

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was strange and certainly strange that

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they were making so much of that because

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as you just mentioned Maureen we know

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that the government has had an active

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interest in that ranch they've mentioned

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it many times on the show the

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government's interest in that ranch and

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active investigation on that ranch so I

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don't know it seemed weird to me to

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bring that up now and it would seem

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weird if the government is still

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interested in that ranch when they've

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already done their own

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and whatever they wanted to do on that

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ranch so I think what else Jen's yeah

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yeah no it definitely brings up more

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questions I think what he was pointing

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out too was that the the idea of

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comparing notes I think that is a big

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one but also the thing that from what we

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show from what the viewers saw it was

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more of how are they still monitoring us

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that's the bigger question who the

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hell's monitoring and how that's why

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Brennan looked so like wait they're

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monitoring us like who and how with what

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equipment when like what are there

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ninjas in the darkness like what's going

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on how are they watching us so I think

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that's where the real that real question

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comes out because you know being out

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there we had talked about a number of

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times I mean and Jim even brings it up

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you know where helicopters are just

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appear out of nowhere or Humvees would

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just appear out of nowhere

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like who the hell are these people and

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what division of the military or you

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know who are they a part of so there's

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the part of it that yes we know about

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the 22 million dollar aspect of it but

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then there's this what's going on now

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and why and like is it like three guys

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you know just doing this or is it like

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you know an actual branch of something

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or a division of something well I can't

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think but think you know I mean this

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ties into the fact that the government

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is known for actively tracking and

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following UFO researchers I mean that's

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been going on for decades and there's

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documented proof of this and you know

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they actively watched people in you know

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that a lot of that is trying to keep

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tabs on people to figure out have they

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figured out some sort of secret

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classified project you're working on or

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what the results to that were or these

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secret aircraft do they mistake them for

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UFOs I mean there's lots of cases that

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involves specifically those types of

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things and connections so for me I'm

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like I wouldn't be surprised if they

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were being monitored by the government

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and being watched for what the hell's

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going on out there and

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that's just kind of hand in hand from

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what we've learned over the years

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happens when you get involved in this

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type of research I mean it was

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validation to for Brennan and there was

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a lot you know he said that in the past

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he thought it was happening and I think

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that a officials that he had spoken to

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in the past were like no it's not

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nothing's going on nobody's watching you

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there's nothing and then here it is

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here's your validation that yes it's you

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be monitored um that's why you see the

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smile he's like cause like I knew it I

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freaking knew it you know it was it's

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one of those like I still on a personal

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level it's I still don't I don't

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understand the secrecy of a lot of this

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as like a TV producer I look at it and

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I'm like you know it's the worst kept

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secret in the world that there's

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government agencies studying UFOs well

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the idea of like using the citizen

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scientists and using all of the

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available resources you have it never

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was more of a you couldn't you could

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mobilize it now easier than you could

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ever have before and deploy people to

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study things and just let people do all

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of the like Eric was talking like if you

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get 10,000 you know people doing this

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stuff or looking into the footage

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looking into data then you're going to

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find correlations you're going to find

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things that others are gonna miss it's

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like instead of just on a computer and

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it throw people at it because that's

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gonna be you're gonna get a different

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element you know a different aspect if

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the algorithm is not gonna pick up

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things whereas people will I don't know

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I just think it's a big Mis it's just a

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it's a big Mis essentially like we could

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be doing a lot more for it then you know

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in that research then we are and

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everyone knows it's like come on you're

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not hiding anything so I don't know he's

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always agendas at play you don't know

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what the agenda is of course or no I

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mean there's all yes of course I'm just

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saying like if you step back and look at

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it's like well everybody knows this is

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going on and you you can't keep calling

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people crazy now that there's evidence

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that's coming out you know it's that you

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have to discount the crazy argument now

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especially when you have you have

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credential investigators people would

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people with top-secret clearance people

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you know you have the Sean Reyes that

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you have the Attorney General from Utah

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they're like you have legitimate

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credential people that are all I mean oh

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this is it this isn't the first time I

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know this is kind of happened I mean

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there's always been you know people with

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with backgrounds like with you know

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credible backgrounds that say these

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things but I mean now it's becoming it's

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just almost like you can't deny these

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things anymore I just write know who the

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officials and maybe you guys know who

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are the officials that are gonna come

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out like what who are the people that

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are going to talk about this who would

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address this you know it's not gonna

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come from like you know the White House

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you know it's not gonna come from the

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Joint Chiefs of Staff like who is it

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gonna come from at some point

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who's gonna address any of this that's

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my you know I'd love to know that like

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somebody's gotta step up not a person

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but which group which branch spaceforce

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Air Force who you know not going to

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crazy town yeah I mean it's it's always

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going to change it's always going to

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come from a different angle a different

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different organization because you know

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a lot of these these groups these

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organizations these these sections of

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the government don't talk to each other

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they're doing their own thing and not

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necessarily working together so right

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now we see you know some activity from

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the Pentagon we see some activity from

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the Navy so it's kind of all over the

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place and I think it'll always be that

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way until there's a joint effort right

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the really unifying talk to each other

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and shares data but you brought up the

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Attorney General for Utah and I got a

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give that guy kudos because as Brandon

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has said before you know when he didn't

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initially want to be public he didn't

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want to have his name out there

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associated with the ranch because you

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know he is a businessman he has major

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real estate deals he didn't want being

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associated with this crazy ranch to

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affect any of his clients to affect any

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of his deals and he's out there now and

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yeah very proud with it very publicly on

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TV and then we have attorney general for

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the state of Utah going on this crazy TV

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show

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you know that's a a public public figure

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doing that public servant going on TV

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and you know a skinwalker ranch TV show

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acknowledging that it was not was not

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expected at all what one my favorite

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part I think was when he told Travis

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Taylor his finger was nasty laughter I

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got exposed to the radiation

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I started getting a knot forming here a

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bump coming out of my knuckle there and

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then another bump start forming and own

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into the summer he kept getting bigger

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and bigger and started hurting that's

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that's nasty and so now when I had it

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x-rayed and my doctor looked at and he

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says well you've got to bone spurs in

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there and they said well you have to

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have it removed because it's gonna keep

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getting bigger and worse and so they

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went in and they took out a cyst that

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was almost as big as in him and in yeah

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so that was interesting because I had

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had that Google my trusty friend google

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weather ionizing radiation exposure

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could cause what dr. Google saying well

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I had to do a little deep research into

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some medical articles which are super

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fun but I mean basically and I'm no

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doctor so if I say something wrong and

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you're watching feel free to let me know

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I will not be offended I did this right

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before the show is that it can cause

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damage to the cartilage in your joints

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that could then possibly lead to bone

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issues but I didn't see specifically

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bone spurs and then I looked at the

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causes of bone spurs and courses a

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million friction overuse and a ton of

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other things but it is interesting that

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it was I'm assuming on the same finger

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that he got the burn that the burn

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showed up on or was that on his hand it

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was yeah I think it was a fatty I think

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cause the handi gripped the handle with

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taken so it's interesting

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I mean we don't have a definite proof

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that those two are linked but I I think

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it's some super roundabout way it's

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possible

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research how long it would take a cow to

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die from pneumonia - so okay what do you

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thought what do you think of that like

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so and he brought up the scared to death

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like he was like quite literally scared

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to death okay I yes but had pneumonia

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yeah so ammonia take some time and

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they'll suffocate

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so I actually does it they said usually

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when a cow gets bovine gets pneumonia

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I'm gonna try to sound smart here Thanks

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it can death usually happens within the

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first two days however by the time we're

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seeing the cow it's already on the

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ground when the object passes over it

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tries to look at the object it's not

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like it instantly got pneumonia and died

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and the herd was already separated from

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it it's clear the cow had been sick

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Peretti so I don't think it's like the

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cow saw strange object and the ground

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and drop dead right yeah I think that

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that wasn't presented in the best

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possible way it was almost implied that

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that is what happened when in fact it

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wasn't and we'd they made it pretty

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clear that it wasn't but I love the the

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tainted meat theory um you know the

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carcass is there and I keep thinking of

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it as like a like a video game like a

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tainted meat like here it is this

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carcass of something that no one wants

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to touch because it's been tainted but

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from what I have no idea so I had never

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heard of that before I don't know if

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either of you have like things being

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struck by lightning or animals being

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tainted in that way I guess I keep

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saying I don't know if that's the right

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word but I mean personally I don't want

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to eat disease to cow or sick cow but

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I'm not I'm not a predator so I don't

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know Jason no I I don't know I don't

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know yeah I never heard that I don't

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know I've never heard the lightning

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thing for sure but as far as anything

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else even disease or something keeping

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away predators I would think at least

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they would kind of tear at it and then

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realize oh this is nasty

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yeah I would think so too but you know

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we're just humans our senses aren't as

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good I suppose

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you know maybe they can smell the

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disease like can't animals smell yeah

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like certain diseases on you yeah yeah I

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always get real worried when my dog pays

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too close attention to me what are you

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smilin on spots don't walk on my hand

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stop licking my hand again again no but

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you know I mean so what's what's really

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cool you're in branding kind of so that

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you know this could be well did Travis

440
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it as well like if in fact what they

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believe happened based on their evidence

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did happen it's this kind of a

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groundbreaking thing and it's kind of

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flying under the radar where the idea of

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quote-unquote air quotes your

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communication with something is

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happening and like Travis had said maybe

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they don't even know that they were

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communicating but by sending things up

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in the air then maybe they were

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inadvertently doing so and then Brandon

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you know again talking that you have the

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AG there

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the Utah's Attorney General and you have

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Brandon saying like look we may have

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just made first contact whether that is

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true or isn't true to be able to say

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that in the presence of Utah's Attorney

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General national audience

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you know phd's people with security

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clearance you know tops like that's kind

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of saying something like obviously

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they're not just throwing it out there

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all willy-nilly they obviously there's

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something here you know I don't want I

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don't want to I don't give away a whole

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bunch of stuff on there nothing there's

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much to get away but I mean it's like

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the mentality is like this is legit this

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is you know but you don't want to say oh

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look we talked to aliens and then people

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like oh you're so crazy you didn't talk

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to aliens okay

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sure well from the viewers point of view

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you know knowing that you know a little

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more and knowing that as we talked about

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earlier on this episode that the team

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has done more investigation into this

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they've looked at additional footage and

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done additional things they're working

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and I have to assume they're working

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with more information

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because again from what we've been

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presented it's a pretty far leap to

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start thinking that oh there's something

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there that's worth trying to communicate

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with because they're more we've seen I'm

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still not convinced that there is

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anything there no surprise they showed

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that clip with that sidebar with with

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dr. Cigala you know saying like what can

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we use what kind of something like that

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was again that's kind of a far or leap

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you know try to put the put the dots

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together but you know again it has been

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a year since a lot of that stuff has

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happened and I think that you know just

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understand people should understand like

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if it's making it to air you've had a

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lot of time to be able to edit that out

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if they wanted to

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so obviously that there's like you're

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saying talking with Eric and Bryant and

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Tom you know there's a lot of stir and

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Jim too like a lot of stuff has happened

506
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there's been a lot of data analyzed so

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they're confident enough that they are

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still gonna say that you know and it's

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not just shock value or for TV or for

510
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ratings like cousin it would look stupid

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if there wasn't anything to back these

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things up with so you have to just trust

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that they're not trying to make

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themselves look stupid you know it's

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it's the magic of TV oh yeah and you

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know there was a lot of attention paid

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to the UFOs on this episode and I get

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that I really do because visual is very

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exciting so and as as we talked about on

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this show as Dragon has talked about I

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mean when you have UFO sighting for

522
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yourself it's incredibly exciting it's

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something visual we can look at and say

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wow there's something there that's great

525
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but when it comes to skinwalker ranch

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and and the testing and everything for

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me I mean yeah something in the sky is

528
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cool but there's so much more exciting

529
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things happening on the ranch in terms

530
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of you know the electromagnetic

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magnetism in the microwave radiation I

532
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mean this stuff is happening they're

533
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measuring it it's hurting people they're

534
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they're having physical effects to it

535
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you know that's that to me that's so

536
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much more exciting

537
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if that's the right word then then the

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UFOs I mean I'm a UFO guy I love UFOs

539
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but again just seeing something in the

540
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sky yeah that's fun and so I can see

541
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where they're going with that maybe more

542
00:22:55,820 --> 00:22:54,870
experiments we can try to send messages

543
00:22:58,850 --> 00:22:55,830
and see what happens

544
00:23:01,730 --> 00:22:58,860
but with everything else we saw this

545
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:01,740
season all the the e/m activity

546
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:03,510
happening is far more exciting to me

547
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:07,290
personally Orion is that soul true yeah

548
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:09,690
I think I'd agree because you have the

549
00:23:15,050 --> 00:23:11,970
situation where unknown crafts are

550
00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:15,060
spotted all over the world often maybe

551
00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:17,550
in a more condensed version above the

552
00:23:25,850 --> 00:23:22,910
ranch and it's the idea of tying why if

553
00:23:28,670 --> 00:23:25,860
there are unknown objects flying above

554
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:28,680
the ranch why are they attracted there

555
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:31,200
and why they would be attracted there is

556
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:34,050
something based on the ground like

557
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:35,520
Jason's meant to mention you know we're

558
00:23:41,900 --> 00:23:38,880
underground or you know I don't know

559
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:41,910
there had to be something interesting

560
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:45,210
going on there so for me I agree i think

561
00:23:50,270 --> 00:23:48,090
it's it's like the study of the area and

562
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:50,280
why things would be happening that are

563
00:23:55,730 --> 00:23:52,320
strange not necessarily flying you know

564
00:23:59,660 --> 00:23:55,740
stopping by like flying overhead you

565
00:24:02,090 --> 00:23:59,670
know I whatever I look for show ideas or

566
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:02,100
think of ideas it my brain always works

567
00:24:07,310 --> 00:24:04,410
if that then what else and so the stuff

568
00:24:11,540 --> 00:24:07,320
that we've been presented right now just

569
00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:11,550
if I was just a doer the the UFO the

570
00:24:15,530 --> 00:24:13,950
first one you know the the the shiny one

571
00:24:19,610 --> 00:24:15,540
that we saw when they were launching

572
00:24:23,300 --> 00:24:19,620
rockets there well the multiple once I

573
00:24:26,030 --> 00:24:23,310
would love to see where that image if

574
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:26,040
that appears were other what other

575
00:24:30,050 --> 00:24:28,080
locations have people seen that or has

576
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:30,060
that been documented that same type of

577
00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:33,090
reflective orb all right I mean there's

578
00:24:38,270 --> 00:24:34,950
tons of them but I mean yeah if you can

579
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:38,280
right but but the part if that then what

580
00:24:44,210 --> 00:24:41,250
else is if you can find that orb and

581
00:24:46,460 --> 00:24:44,220
then hopefully we can get Eric to talk

582
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:46,470
about this or or maybe other people

583
00:24:52,220 --> 00:24:49,530
listening know this how were those

584
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:52,230
readings of the electromagnetic field in

585
00:24:55,670 --> 00:24:54,480
the microwave all the way up to 5,000

586
00:24:57,170 --> 00:24:55,680
feet how were those

587
00:24:59,570 --> 00:24:57,180
sharbat when Eric showed that really

588
00:25:01,250 --> 00:24:59,580
cool graphic what tech was used to

589
00:25:05,270 --> 00:25:01,260
present that almost like that wave that

590
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:05,280
that waterfall of you know of microwaves

591
00:25:09,890 --> 00:25:07,200
so if you can then find the correlation

592
00:25:12,020 --> 00:25:09,900
where those objects appear and you're

593
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:12,030
getting that same kind of reading that

594
00:25:14,810 --> 00:25:13,410
same kind of each so now you're having

595
00:25:16,730 --> 00:25:14,820
two data points that you're being able

596
00:25:18,020 --> 00:25:16,740
to put together can you find multiple

597
00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:18,030
locations on the planet that that

598
00:25:21,740 --> 00:25:19,860
happens like that's where my head goes

599
00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:21,750
immediately like taking whatever data we

600
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:22,860
can find in saying okay there's

601
00:25:26,780 --> 00:25:25,290
commonalities between these try to match

602
00:25:29,150 --> 00:25:26,790
up as many commonalities as we can and

603
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:29,160
then see like okay other people see

604
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:30,720
these in Hong Kong people see these orbs

605
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:32,250
in New York so they see people see okay

606
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:35,130
great so those locations then find what

607
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:37,410
the the e/m readings are there or find

608
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:38,960
out what the you know the microwave

609
00:25:44,150 --> 00:25:41,570
readings are there does anything looks

610
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:44,160
the same and then you can at least start

611
00:25:46,850 --> 00:25:45,210
with okay well there's two data points

612
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:46,860
what's a third can we find another one

613
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:49,710
that matches I don't know I just think

614
00:25:52,610 --> 00:25:51,450
that that's you're gonna see people I'm

615
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:52,620
hoping people are gonna start doing

616
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:55,200
these kinds of things to really push

617
00:25:59,690 --> 00:25:58,170
this forward it would be great if you

618
00:26:02,030 --> 00:25:59,700
know but a lot of people don't have the

619
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:02,040
resources and equipment to actually even

620
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:03,450
test that kind of thing if they see a

621
00:26:09,770 --> 00:26:05,910
silver orb in the sky they have gotten

622
00:26:11,540 --> 00:26:09,780
they may be in a huge city and see it go

623
00:26:14,030 --> 00:26:11,550
by and take one picture and how are you

624
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:14,040
supposed to get measures for that so

625
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:16,410
yeah it's it's like a dream wish that is

626
00:26:21,140 --> 00:26:18,810
probably not not gonna happen anytime

627
00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:21,150
soon the part of me though that there's

628
00:26:26,090 --> 00:26:23,550
a lot of publicly available data if you

629
00:26:27,980 --> 00:26:26,100
know where to look for it like the lidar

630
00:26:29,540 --> 00:26:27,990
data from the ranch like that stuff I

631
00:26:31,610 --> 00:26:29,550
mean there is there's some really

632
00:26:34,190 --> 00:26:31,620
detailed data if you look there's

633
00:26:37,070 --> 00:26:34,200
databases I mean ton like open source

634
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:37,080
databases of mapping lidar mapping from

635
00:26:41,060 --> 00:26:38,720
all over the country but there's also

636
00:26:42,860 --> 00:26:41,070
measurements of different of elements in

637
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:42,870
all over the country so I'm wondering if

638
00:26:49,250 --> 00:26:45,450
there are measurements of of any of

639
00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:49,260
these other of microwaves of EMV or any

640
00:26:54,290 --> 00:26:50,880
kind of radiation like there must be

641
00:26:55,670 --> 00:26:54,300
somewhere there an open-source database

642
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:55,680
of this stuff that people are

643
00:27:00,080 --> 00:26:58,320
contributing to and I can't think of the

644
00:27:01,370 --> 00:27:00,090
name the technical terms of these things

645
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:01,380
right now the names of them there's a

646
00:27:05,090 --> 00:27:02,850
couple that we used to use in

647
00:27:07,220 --> 00:27:05,100
researching stuff for the ranch but like

648
00:27:08,930 --> 00:27:07,230
you just go on and you could do overlays

649
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:08,940
in Google Maps like literally you can

650
00:27:12,770 --> 00:27:10,530
bring in these they're called like KL

651
00:27:14,990 --> 00:27:12,780
KML files or something you import them

652
00:27:17,180 --> 00:27:15,000
into Google Earth and then there's a

653
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:17,190
layover I mean it's just the layers of

654
00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:19,530
data then it's just there people just

655
00:27:23,870 --> 00:27:22,169
don't know what to look for that's the

656
00:27:26,539 --> 00:27:23,880
hardest thing I guess to find or figure

657
00:27:29,060 --> 00:27:26,549
out but I mean if you can it's this is

658
00:27:30,380 --> 00:27:29,070
just like you know I always get up not

659
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:30,390
upset but I get annoyed with the

660
00:27:34,580 --> 00:27:31,520
ghost-hunting

661
00:27:36,890 --> 00:27:34,590
shows because it's like okay set up

662
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:36,900
every freaking piece of equipment you

663
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:39,210
can every time somebody says they see

664
00:27:44,510 --> 00:27:41,490
something take every reading that's

665
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:44,520
there every one of them at all times if

666
00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:46,289
that if you can reproduce all of those

667
00:27:49,370 --> 00:27:47,880
readings and then you see something or

668
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:49,380
experience something then you know

669
00:27:53,870 --> 00:27:52,110
oh when this happens this happens great

670
00:27:55,850 --> 00:27:53,880
and then just keep digging drilling down

671
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:55,860
drilling down drilling down at some

672
00:28:00,200 --> 00:27:58,080
point Tech is gonna catch up with us to

673
00:28:02,779 --> 00:28:00,210
be able to answer these um notes it's

674
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:02,789
just a matter of which tech so an

675
00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:05,970
open-source data gathering is fantastic

676
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:10,049
but it also has lots of problems and

677
00:28:14,659 --> 00:28:12,690
those problems are what make what's

678
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:14,669
happening on the ranch special because

679
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:17,730
again this is a laboratory it's a

680
00:28:23,419 --> 00:28:20,970
working laboratory that tries to have a

681
00:28:26,570 --> 00:28:23,429
controlled environment and has a team

682
00:28:29,690 --> 00:28:26,580
there actively you know conducting these

683
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:29,700
experiments and they've got you know a

684
00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:32,159
good base that they're working with they

685
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:34,409
know what you know usual readings they

686
00:28:38,029 --> 00:28:36,210
have there and what's abnormal and

687
00:28:39,649 --> 00:28:38,039
things like that whereas if somebody

688
00:28:41,870 --> 00:28:39,659
like me was just walking around and

689
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:41,880
taking readings I'd go oh wow this area

690
00:28:46,190 --> 00:28:43,770
is high right how would I know that cuz

691
00:28:49,220 --> 00:28:46,200
I'm not there for months on end you know

692
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:49,230
taking readings so I mean that's where

693
00:28:53,899 --> 00:28:51,510
Eric you know he he always he was saying

694
00:28:56,659 --> 00:28:53,909
about the sufficiently motivated high

695
00:28:58,730 --> 00:28:56,669
school student you know it's if you but

696
00:29:00,140 --> 00:28:58,740
you have to know what it is that you

697
00:29:02,299 --> 00:29:00,150
need to be doing you don't have to have

698
00:29:04,250 --> 00:29:02,309
any special abilities you just have to

699
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:04,260
know okay I need to set a baseline like

700
00:29:07,940 --> 00:29:06,809
what is what are the steps Eric I'm sure

701
00:29:10,460 --> 00:29:07,950
he's going to put that out there cuz he

702
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:10,470
wants this kind of citizen scientist he

703
00:29:15,020 --> 00:29:12,330
wants people to start looking for these

704
00:29:17,419 --> 00:29:15,030
things like there's just so much info

705
00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:17,429
available that he can't possibly as a

706
00:29:19,370 --> 00:29:18,900
human you know as one person and go

707
00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:19,380
through it

708
00:29:27,530 --> 00:29:22,020
so and I don't think he wants to write

709
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:27,540
the code in Python to do it well I think

710
00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:31,110
this episode episode 8 did a good job of

711
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:33,540
recapping what we saw for the first

712
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,240
season I'm left with a whole lot of

713
00:29:40,610 --> 00:29:38,640
unanswered questions but you know that's

714
00:29:43,220 --> 00:29:40,620
what happens in a season 1 of a show and

715
00:29:45,650 --> 00:29:43,230
I think Eric you know gave me some

716
00:29:48,050 --> 00:29:45,660
excitement there at the end with his his

717
00:29:50,660 --> 00:29:48,060
little pulling us geographical survey

718
00:29:52,580 --> 00:29:50,670
data and creating that freaky looking

719
00:29:55,250 --> 00:29:52,590
map with laser beams shooting all over

720
00:29:57,140 --> 00:29:55,260
the place so I think with the things

721
00:29:59,900 --> 00:29:57,150
they mentioned you know communicating

722
00:30:02,060 --> 00:29:59,910
with extraterrestrials on there too I

723
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:02,070
think they they're setting up some

724
00:30:07,730 --> 00:30:04,410
really cool experiments for the next

725
00:30:10,820 --> 00:30:07,740
season so all I'll be excited to watch

726
00:30:15,470 --> 00:30:10,830
that like launching a satellite into

727
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:15,480
space yes that's a husband no that

728
00:30:20,750 --> 00:30:18,510
didn't been talked about for long I mean

729
00:30:22,910 --> 00:30:20,760
I think that was uh I don't think that's

730
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:22,920
any kind of secretive technology I

731
00:30:26,090 --> 00:30:24,480
didn't even know until a few years ago I

732
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:26,100
didn't know you did good any human being

733
00:30:29,420 --> 00:30:27,600
anybody can go and do that you can order

734
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:29,430
a satellite now it should you know

735
00:30:36,830 --> 00:30:33,690
launching this space for right them

736
00:30:39,260 --> 00:30:36,840
specifically doing that oh yes yeah like

737
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:39,270
I mean it

738
00:30:42,260 --> 00:30:40,530
travelers would know exactly what to put

739
00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:42,270
on it as well so it's gonna be

740
00:30:45,260 --> 00:30:43,950
interesting to see how that turns out

741
00:30:46,670 --> 00:30:45,270
there's gonna be a lot of cool

742
00:30:48,410 --> 00:30:46,680
experiments and it's gonna be a lot of

743
00:30:51,290 --> 00:30:48,420
you can tell you this I know they're

744
00:30:53,420 --> 00:30:51,300
gonna be a lot of money spent sure you

745
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:53,430
know Brandon is in your side at all he's

746
00:30:57,770 --> 00:30:55,170
in a for long haul man that guy's not

747
00:31:01,610 --> 00:30:57,780
screwing around so nice but this is

748
00:31:03,470 --> 00:31:01,620
great um well you know hopefully we keep

749
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:03,480
these going and we'll try to get more

750
00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:06,510
the guys back I can see about you know

751
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:08,550
maybe next week we can try to keep doing

752
00:31:14,270 --> 00:31:11,010
our weeklies and if I can get an update

753
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,280
from them or you know I will and if we

754
00:31:18,260 --> 00:31:15,840
can bring somebody back on we can you

755
00:31:19,730 --> 00:31:18,270
know I will but I know they're they're

756
00:31:22,670 --> 00:31:19,740
pretty busy right now which is a good

757
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:22,680
thing for everyone who's interested in

758
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:25,440
it so it's I'm just glad that everyone

759
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:27,510
got a chance to see like okay you know

760
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:30,210
the first eight you know squirt it's

761
00:31:35,030 --> 00:31:32,730
awesome show rated really well

762
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:35,040
the season coming hopefully it'll be

763
00:31:41,180 --> 00:31:38,720
another you know 10 15 seasons who knows

764
00:31:43,850 --> 00:31:41,190
you know what they find you know and and

765
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:43,860
again the rumor of oh if they found

766
00:31:47,870 --> 00:31:45,600
something meaningful we would know it no

767
00:31:51,530 --> 00:31:47,880
you wouldn't know people stop thinking

768
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:51,540
that you would not know if something was

769
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:54,960
found that you know it would be kept

770
00:31:59,990 --> 00:31:56,250
under wraps things have been kept under

771
00:32:02,180 --> 00:32:00,000
wraps for a very long time so you know

772
00:32:03,970 --> 00:32:02,190
it's the magic of TV man you're just

773
00:32:06,380 --> 00:32:03,980
gonna keep remembering that this is a

774
00:32:08,990 --> 00:32:06,390
business like any other business so

775
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:09,000
magic and the curse of TV and the curse

776
00:32:14,090 --> 00:32:12,000
of TV yes yes in the curse of TV but

777
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:14,100
nobody's but there's just no that

778
00:32:20,990 --> 00:32:14,960
there's no

779
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:21,000
it's all being open you know Marie I

780
00:32:26,419 --> 00:32:23,910
mean we talked about this before Brandon

781
00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:26,429
went on you know podcast with some noted

782
00:32:30,530 --> 00:32:28,230
debunker guy like and he put himself out

783
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:30,540
there and you can understand for Brandon

784
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:32,640
to go and do that guy's clearly not

785
00:32:36,289 --> 00:32:34,530
trying to hide anything he's not gonna

786
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:36,299
put himself in you know the lion's den

787
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:38,370
and be like oh man this guy's gonna

788
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:41,490
protect me I'm gonna look stupid no you

789
00:32:46,909 --> 00:32:44,610
know he he went out there and you know I

790
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:46,919
think he's been very vocal about this

791
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:49,049
show would not have happened if you know

792
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:51,090
the channel did not meet my demands

793
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,049
which was you know having my team and

794
00:33:00,650 --> 00:32:56,640
not faking anything showing the real

795
00:33:04,130 --> 00:33:00,660
science and what's going on and stuck by

796
00:33:06,049 --> 00:33:04,140
that and yeah Mick West's interview with

797
00:33:09,820 --> 00:33:06,059
him on I think it was it was the last

798
00:33:12,770 --> 00:33:09,830
Friday people can go check that out and

799
00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:12,780
you can see also where you have this

800
00:33:18,770 --> 00:33:15,919
noted debunker who is the one who

801
00:33:21,650 --> 00:33:18,780
suggested hey look I think I found exact

802
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:21,660
the exact helicopter data and what the

803
00:33:27,250 --> 00:33:24,510
helicopter was doing that that was seen

804
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:27,260
in episode I don't know six or seven and

805
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:29,370
Brandon said thank you very much for

806
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:31,110
your research just was really incredible

807
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,080
you know blah blah blah it wasn't

808
00:33:38,090 --> 00:33:36,480
something like how are you that was

809
00:33:40,490 --> 00:33:38,100
definitely a government helicopter

810
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:40,500
watching us it was like whoa cool like

811
00:33:44,659 --> 00:33:42,690
this is what we need we need people

812
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keeping their eyes open and doing that

813
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so yeah

814
00:33:52,660 --> 00:33:49,970
and you guys how tell us how did the

815
00:33:53,650 --> 00:33:52,670
panel go I was on a strange the

816
00:33:55,330 --> 00:33:53,660
skinwalker panel

817
00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:55,340
I mean you for those who missed it where

818
00:34:02,860 --> 00:34:00,880
can people go and still see this soon

819
00:34:04,290 --> 00:34:02,870
yeah I don't know when Dayton's

820
00:34:08,290 --> 00:34:04,300
uploading it to the YouTube channel

821
00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:08,300
uploading it either but all the

822
00:34:12,460 --> 00:34:09,590
presentations will be uploaded to the

823
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:12,470
road planet YouTube channel ok and for

824
00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:13,250
those who don't know there was a

825
00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:16,820
skinwalker panel at 4:00 at all the

826
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:21,580
strange the virtual panel that we did

827
00:34:27,490 --> 00:34:25,010
hosted by Maureen and well obviously

828
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:27,500
Jason was there as well

829
00:34:32,020 --> 00:34:28,850
so you got to see a bunch of the guys

830
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:32,030
from the ranch and it was great and so

831
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:35,090
just you know if you want more ranch

832
00:34:40,690 --> 00:34:37,970
content just keep lookout on the rogue

833
00:34:43,330 --> 00:34:40,700
planet channel and Grayson will get it

834
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:43,340
up soon you can imagine that your prey

835
00:34:45,580 --> 00:34:44,450
you're probably slammed with a whole

836
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:45,590
bunch of these things that you got to

837
00:34:53,350 --> 00:34:50,510
get up there home I'm not in a rush yeah

838
00:34:54,910 --> 00:34:53,360
J well anyway that's uh that's it again

839
00:34:56,980 --> 00:34:54,920
for another week of the skinwalker

840
00:34:58,930 --> 00:34:56,990
debrief and thanks to everyone for

841
00:35:01,960 --> 00:34:58,940
tuning in and making this show a huge

842
00:35:04,810 --> 00:35:01,970
success and I decide I'm still looking

843
00:35:06,610 --> 00:35:04,820
for show ideas and talent and so people

844
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:06,620
feel free to reach out to me personally

845
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:10,010
on Twitter just at TJ Allard because I'm

846
00:35:14,260 --> 00:35:11,690
still trying to look for the next the

847
00:35:16,930 --> 00:35:14,270
next show it doesn't always have to be

848
00:35:20,140 --> 00:35:16,940
in this genre I do other programming

849
00:35:22,690 --> 00:35:20,150
this is just one of the this is just the

850
00:35:24,780 --> 00:35:22,700
really big one that I couldn't pass up

851
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:24,790
an opportunity to kind of push through

852
00:35:28,750 --> 00:35:27,650
but um you guys what else you have

853
00:35:30,570 --> 00:35:28,760
coming up is there anything else you

854
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:30,580
should plug it's coming up right now

855
00:35:35,260 --> 00:35:33,710
yeah we just finished all the strange

856
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:35,270
like you said that was our be a virtual

857
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:37,910
Expo that took a lot of time out of us

858
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:39,890
so we're kind of resting right now

859
00:35:46,750 --> 00:35:44,240
sure still doing our bi-weekly UFO

860
00:35:50,410 --> 00:35:46,760
podcast called unknown find that

861
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:50,420
everywhere podcasts are found and like

862
00:35:55,810 --> 00:35:52,130
this show everything we do is at rogue

863
00:35:58,810 --> 00:35:55,820
planet TV awesome well thank you again

864
00:36:00,220 --> 00:35:58,820
both of you for you know participating

865
00:36:02,020 --> 00:36:00,230
in this and yeah like

866
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:02,030
we'll try to do it next week again with

867
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:04,310
someone see what you can bring in and uh

868
00:36:08,620 --> 00:36:06,310
you know I can't even I'll you know what

869
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:08,630
let's can I keep it a surprise but if

870
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:09,650
you people if people have questions

871
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:11,510
still send them you know keep hitting

872
00:36:16,359 --> 00:36:14,720
the pot the skinwalker pod on Twitter

873
00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:16,369
with questions around in the Facebook

874
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:19,369
group or email would be great we'll

875
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:21,050
still know we'll address it when we can

876
00:36:26,170 --> 00:36:24,410
and that's all thanks again for everyone

877
00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:26,180
making this a huge success and for